akhilmahajan
07-15 05:14 PM
Total So far 1515.00. We are Well short of our target of 2000.00. Let's Go Guys. $5 to IV = Hope for GC = Subway FootLong Sub.
COME ON FOLKS HELP IV HELP YOURSELF.
COME ON FOLKS HELP IV HELP YOURSELF.
Mouns
04-30 03:37 PM
And the situation prior to surge wasnt any better either. I remember in 2006, the PD for India EB3 was April 2001 and now its Nov 2001. :mad:
This was directed to people who were current. If you are from India, China, Mexico, Philippines, get used to waiting. Your backlog is due to numerical limits. And this won't change (the way I see it)
This was directed to people who were current. If you are from India, China, Mexico, Philippines, get used to waiting. Your backlog is due to numerical limits. And this won't change (the way I see it)
Jimi_Hendrix
11-16 06:12 PM
Hi everyone,
I would like to have a conference call this Sunday between 3pm-3:30 pm. Please tell me if this will work out for you all? Please shoot me an e-mail at amitg_2000@hotmail.com with your availability, your phone number and most accessed e-mail account.
Once everyone confirms I will forward some discussion points for the call.
I look foward to hearing back from you.
Thanks,
JH
I would like to have a conference call this Sunday between 3pm-3:30 pm. Please tell me if this will work out for you all? Please shoot me an e-mail at amitg_2000@hotmail.com with your availability, your phone number and most accessed e-mail account.
Once everyone confirms I will forward some discussion points for the call.
I look foward to hearing back from you.
Thanks,
JH
snathan
08-23 02:33 PM
There is a difference, my friend. Porting to EB2 means you have to spend LOTS of $$$ and time and effort to get masters degree.
No matter how you look at it, it is not wise to hack away at any door that's open to all. We should look at expanding our vistas, not shrink it. What if I tell you I am thinking of starting up a co in India, so some day I can make it here using the EB1 route? Why do you want to prevent me from availing this opportunity and making my sacrifices -- just because you feel it will help YOU move forward by ONE INCH?
How about people are using it as a loop hole and smack you down. Just because you have the option, it does not mean the right thing.
No matter how you look at it, it is not wise to hack away at any door that's open to all. We should look at expanding our vistas, not shrink it. What if I tell you I am thinking of starting up a co in India, so some day I can make it here using the EB1 route? Why do you want to prevent me from availing this opportunity and making my sacrifices -- just because you feel it will help YOU move forward by ONE INCH?
How about people are using it as a loop hole and smack you down. Just because you have the option, it does not mean the right thing.
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sumansk
09-10 11:34 AM
Hello Pappu,
Just contributed $100 for the cause.Not able to attend the rally due to personal reasons...But hearlty appreciate every one's efforts ..Keep it up Guys !! Thanks
Surendra K
Just contributed $100 for the cause.Not able to attend the rally due to personal reasons...But hearlty appreciate every one's efforts ..Keep it up Guys !! Thanks
Surendra K
badluck
07-06 01:58 PM
me too. Personally I think Australia might have better weather but Canada is closer
why not our motherland INDIA
why not our motherland INDIA
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minimalist
09-10 12:27 PM
I don't know if anybody has noticed it but the dates for EB-2 for VB October 2007 was April 1, 2004 and for VB October 2008 is April 1, 2003. That is a retrogression of 1 year - not good. :mad:
You see in the real world everything moved 1 year ahead from October 2007 to October 2008. So in USCIS world also it moved by 1year.
You see in the real world everything moved 1 year ahead from October 2007 to October 2008. So in USCIS world also it moved by 1year.
pankajkakkar
08-08 12:17 PM
Stuck for years
In the debate over illegal immigration, don't forget the many legal immigrants waiting for their turn.
by Pankaj Kakkar
Legislators in Congress are as divided over the issue of illegal immigration as Americans are. Opinions are strong, debate is passionate, and no end is in sight. Proponents of quick reform, from both sides of the divide, stress the urgency of the issue and the need for a solution soon. In this debate, however, the plight of legal immigrants is forgotten.
The path to legally acquiring US residency and eventual citizenship is long and unnecessarily complicated, yet many deserving immigrants attempt it every year. Legal immigrants are roughly divided into two categories - family based immigrants and employment based immigrants. These immigrants face years of waiting due to anachronistic laws, discriminatory quotas, onerous bureaucratic hurdles and paper files needlessly being pushed through the system. They also face mounting legal and other tangible and intangible costs. Through all this, they work hard, pay their taxes, and live upright, lawful lives. It is in the interest of the United States as a whole, and Americans individually, to expedite the immigration process for both employment based and family based immigrants.
The benefits are easier to see for employment based immigration. This category has attracted the best researchers and entrepreneurs of the world for the last half century. Immigrants from this category have started companies that employ hundreds of thousands of Americans (with some of these companies featured in the Fortune 500 list). Others have done research and invented technologies that have earned them the highest awards in their fields, such as the Nobel Prize. Even those who haven't been as successful have been an indispensable part of America's economic growth and progress, especially in technology, over the last half century. In my country of birth, India, the phenomenon of the best minds leaving for the US was called the "brain drain" - it isn't hard to see that India's "brain drain" is but America's "brain gain".
Family based immigrants also benefit the US, although in less economically tangible ways. The best minds of the world, immigrating to the US through the first category, would be most comfortable and most productive in an environment where they're close to their family. These family members themselves contribute to American society by being productive, law abiding, and patriotic citizens.
Typical legal immigrants have to wait 5-10 years, and some family based immigrants as long as 20-25 years, before they can even get a Green Card, after which another 5 year wait for acquiring citizenship ensues. These long waits have already persuaded several potential immigrants, many of whom could have been founders of Fortune 500 companies or Nobel Prize winners themselves, to go back to their countries of origin. Quite a few have also immigrated or are considering immigrating to countries where immigration laws are friendlier and less bureaucratic, such as Canada, Ireland and the U.K. While legal immigrants benefit the United States greatly, America does them, and herself, a disservice by making them suffer through an interminable immigration process and countless bureaucratic hurdles. America can and should do right by them.
Congressman Shadegg (R-AZ) has introduced a bill, called the SKIL (Securing Knowledge, Innovation and Leadership) Act, in the House of Representatives. This bill, which has 9 Republican co-sponsors, including Congressman Mike Pence (R-CO), a leader on the issue of immigration, will significantly ameliorate the wait times and hurdles that legal immigrants face, while also benefiting the American economy by making sure that the technology leaders of tomorrow innovate and invent in the United States, and not elsewhere in the world. A similar bill has already passed the Senate. The House should consider it soon, and pass it as well.
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Added by pappu
Published on oct 02, 2006
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=27239#post27239
http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=71b07f51db4b780d19530 b364b3d6b9f
news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=71b07f51db4b780d19530 b364b3d6b9f
In the debate over illegal immigration, don't forget the many legal immigrants waiting for their turn.
by Pankaj Kakkar
Legislators in Congress are as divided over the issue of illegal immigration as Americans are. Opinions are strong, debate is passionate, and no end is in sight. Proponents of quick reform, from both sides of the divide, stress the urgency of the issue and the need for a solution soon. In this debate, however, the plight of legal immigrants is forgotten.
The path to legally acquiring US residency and eventual citizenship is long and unnecessarily complicated, yet many deserving immigrants attempt it every year. Legal immigrants are roughly divided into two categories - family based immigrants and employment based immigrants. These immigrants face years of waiting due to anachronistic laws, discriminatory quotas, onerous bureaucratic hurdles and paper files needlessly being pushed through the system. They also face mounting legal and other tangible and intangible costs. Through all this, they work hard, pay their taxes, and live upright, lawful lives. It is in the interest of the United States as a whole, and Americans individually, to expedite the immigration process for both employment based and family based immigrants.
The benefits are easier to see for employment based immigration. This category has attracted the best researchers and entrepreneurs of the world for the last half century. Immigrants from this category have started companies that employ hundreds of thousands of Americans (with some of these companies featured in the Fortune 500 list). Others have done research and invented technologies that have earned them the highest awards in their fields, such as the Nobel Prize. Even those who haven't been as successful have been an indispensable part of America's economic growth and progress, especially in technology, over the last half century. In my country of birth, India, the phenomenon of the best minds leaving for the US was called the "brain drain" - it isn't hard to see that India's "brain drain" is but America's "brain gain".
Family based immigrants also benefit the US, although in less economically tangible ways. The best minds of the world, immigrating to the US through the first category, would be most comfortable and most productive in an environment where they're close to their family. These family members themselves contribute to American society by being productive, law abiding, and patriotic citizens.
Typical legal immigrants have to wait 5-10 years, and some family based immigrants as long as 20-25 years, before they can even get a Green Card, after which another 5 year wait for acquiring citizenship ensues. These long waits have already persuaded several potential immigrants, many of whom could have been founders of Fortune 500 companies or Nobel Prize winners themselves, to go back to their countries of origin. Quite a few have also immigrated or are considering immigrating to countries where immigration laws are friendlier and less bureaucratic, such as Canada, Ireland and the U.K. While legal immigrants benefit the United States greatly, America does them, and herself, a disservice by making them suffer through an interminable immigration process and countless bureaucratic hurdles. America can and should do right by them.
Congressman Shadegg (R-AZ) has introduced a bill, called the SKIL (Securing Knowledge, Innovation and Leadership) Act, in the House of Representatives. This bill, which has 9 Republican co-sponsors, including Congressman Mike Pence (R-CO), a leader on the issue of immigration, will significantly ameliorate the wait times and hurdles that legal immigrants face, while also benefiting the American economy by making sure that the technology leaders of tomorrow innovate and invent in the United States, and not elsewhere in the world. A similar bill has already passed the Senate. The House should consider it soon, and pass it as well.
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Added by pappu
Published on oct 02, 2006
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=27239#post27239
http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=71b07f51db4b780d19530 b364b3d6b9f
news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=71b07f51db4b780d19530 b364b3d6b9f
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obviously
08-15 09:29 PM
I happen to be a freelance writer (not a journalist). In response to this thread, I have penned a 2,700 word commentary on the current challenges titled "The Plight of Promise". In order to beef it up with some compelling statistics, can 5 or 6 people respond to this thread with anonymized details of their specific circumstances and how they are suffering. Keep it to 2 or 3 sentences. I will cull out required data points to make the case. For ex:
- AD, a 31 yr old non immigrant worker from Poland with a wife and two kids. Unable to get into stage 3, meanwhile need to change my job and relocate to a specific city where my child's health needs can be taken care of. Unable to do so because...
If anyone would like to get the final edited version, let me know. You will be free to republish it without copyright concerns, subject to attribution.
Lastly, I will be spending a good amount of quality time in this matter. So, I will respectfully ask people to resist their desire to 'nit pick' the pieces. Constructive, candid feedback, of course, is always welcome!
hastily, but sincerely,
obviously
- AD, a 31 yr old non immigrant worker from Poland with a wife and two kids. Unable to get into stage 3, meanwhile need to change my job and relocate to a specific city where my child's health needs can be taken care of. Unable to do so because...
If anyone would like to get the final edited version, let me know. You will be free to republish it without copyright concerns, subject to attribution.
Lastly, I will be spending a good amount of quality time in this matter. So, I will respectfully ask people to resist their desire to 'nit pick' the pieces. Constructive, candid feedback, of course, is always welcome!
hastily, but sincerely,
obviously
gc_on_demand
04-30 03:00 PM
We dont need EAD And AP if they process 485 in 6 months or less
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newbee7
07-05 12:16 PM
We must try to aviod the I485/ EAD language though.
dpp
07-06 12:15 PM
I have changed the thread title.
Thanks, i don't want to confuse, but i just put something to post it initially.
Thanks, i don't want to confuse, but i just put something to post it initially.
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JunRN
08-19 07:47 PM
Unfortunately, there isn't a fast lane for nurses. If your PD is April 31, 2007, my advise to you is to monitor the monthly Visa Bulletin and once your PD becomes current, you will know that it is just a few months ahead. For now, with the current turn of events, without the fast lane for nurses, you are looking at two years of waiting.
soda
08-11 03:15 PM
If I had my I-485 applications mailed on July 2nd and had it postmarked on July 2nd, but reached USCIS on July 3rd, according to USCIS, does that mean that my application was filed on July 2nd?
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fairboy
07-25 01:13 PM
fairboy and friends,
Could you please tell me how to check an ad on the AJE website? Can I check the ad for my case using my case number? My case is stuck in DBEC.
Thanks for your help.
Here is a bit of background. BEC's have been using a web site named 'America's Job Bank' (AJB) for posting job listings for cases that have not been converted to RIR. Effective 31st July AJB site is being discontinued and a new site named 'America's Job Exchange' (AJE) will become its successor. BECs have already started using this new site. Here is how to check if your job is posted or not:
1. Go to http://www.americasjobexchange.com/seeker/jobsearch/keyword
2. In the keywords field, enter the first few characters of your ETA case number. If your case is in PBEC and has a ETA case number such as P-xxxxx-xxxxx, then you would enter either Pxx* or xxx*. Do not enter any hyphen character and do not forget the '*' character at the end.
3. Choose 'National' radio button and click 'Search Now' button.
4. You will find a bunch of listings under the company name 'Team Exceed'. This is probably the company to which BEC cases have been outsourced for adjudication.
5. Play around with different combinations of letters of your ETA case number. You may also click on 'Team Exceed' link on the results page to see a complete list of jobs posted by BECs.
Have fun
fb
Could you please tell me how to check an ad on the AJE website? Can I check the ad for my case using my case number? My case is stuck in DBEC.
Thanks for your help.
Here is a bit of background. BEC's have been using a web site named 'America's Job Bank' (AJB) for posting job listings for cases that have not been converted to RIR. Effective 31st July AJB site is being discontinued and a new site named 'America's Job Exchange' (AJE) will become its successor. BECs have already started using this new site. Here is how to check if your job is posted or not:
1. Go to http://www.americasjobexchange.com/seeker/jobsearch/keyword
2. In the keywords field, enter the first few characters of your ETA case number. If your case is in PBEC and has a ETA case number such as P-xxxxx-xxxxx, then you would enter either Pxx* or xxx*. Do not enter any hyphen character and do not forget the '*' character at the end.
3. Choose 'National' radio button and click 'Search Now' button.
4. You will find a bunch of listings under the company name 'Team Exceed'. This is probably the company to which BEC cases have been outsourced for adjudication.
5. Play around with different combinations of letters of your ETA case number. You may also click on 'Team Exceed' link on the results page to see a complete list of jobs posted by BECs.
Have fun
fb
satyasaich
08-02 03:45 PM
Sri
Certainly that's a good news. But may i ask you which service center you called in ? is it NSC or TSC
Thanks
Satya
QUOTE=srikondoji]I have talked to a representative and he very patiently explained me about the mess.
He clearly and very clearly told me that they have a deadline to send all receipts for June end and July 2nd filers by friday (tomorrow) or worst case monday.
He mentioned that they are working hard to meet this deadline.
Hope this clears the anxiety.[/QUOTE]
Certainly that's a good news. But may i ask you which service center you called in ? is it NSC or TSC
Thanks
Satya
QUOTE=srikondoji]I have talked to a representative and he very patiently explained me about the mess.
He clearly and very clearly told me that they have a deadline to send all receipts for June end and July 2nd filers by friday (tomorrow) or worst case monday.
He mentioned that they are working hard to meet this deadline.
Hope this clears the anxiety.[/QUOTE]
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skc526
07-18 04:57 PM
Contributed $100 for now through Google checkout. Will be giving more eventually. :)
pappu
08-12 11:36 AM
Why is the senator backtracking from "chop shop" comment ? Here is why
Visa row: US keen not to hurt ties with India before Obama visit - US - World - The Times of India (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Visa-row-US-keen-not-to-hurt-ties-with-India-before-Obama-visit/articleshow/6298482.cms)
He has already been able to pass the law. Now whether he calls them chopshop or backtracks, or praises them.......it does not do anything. This will soon be a law.
Visa row: US keen not to hurt ties with India before Obama visit - US - World - The Times of India (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Visa-row-US-keen-not-to-hurt-ties-with-India-before-Obama-visit/articleshow/6298482.cms)
He has already been able to pass the law. Now whether he calls them chopshop or backtracks, or praises them.......it does not do anything. This will soon be a law.
carbon
08-15 02:04 PM
America has always been a favorite destination for immigrants. In the past, labor jobs were abundant and there were enough immigrants to do those jobs. This mutual dependency contributed to the growth of the United States making it the fastest growing industrial nation in the world. Things have changed, labor immigrants have been replaced by high-tech and skilled immigrants, but two things have not changed. 1. America depends on immigrants to sustain growth and 2. Immigrants come to America to fulfill their dreams. This 300 year old interdependence is very important yet under appreciated by the lawmakers.
Skilled workers of foreign nationality are well educated, creative and ambitious individuals. They act as a �steroid� for the nation. They charge the nation with prosperity and growth. Generally countries depend on their younger generation and hope that they will become highly productive and good citizens contributing to the growth of their nation in future, however only few countries are blessed with the strong stream of immigrants with highly desirable qualities to make progress today, not tomorrow. It seems America is highly blessed in that regard. But unfortunately the lawmakers don�t seem to recognize how fortunate their country. Following facts support my observation:
1. World has entered information and biotech age. India and China has the biggest technological talent pool
waiting to settle down in USA, yet the immigration quota for these countries is locked to extremely small
and fixed number for decades due to half-century old laws. The laws does not take reality into account.
2. In the days of online stock trading, visa processing is still done at extremely slow pace.
3. The positive impact of immigrants has been taken for granted.
4. Immigration is considered a charity rather than an important factor in country�s growth. The attitude is not right.
If such ignorance continues in the United States following will happen:
1. Innovation will slowdown. It has already begun.
2. Technology companies will migrate to India and China.
3. Large scale outsourcing will occur for technological and knowledge based jobs.
4. Stock indexes will move south, as there won�t be many attractive places to invest money. High profits normally come from high growth companies and today�s high growth companies come from technology sector.
5. Tax revenues will decrease, which will affect all government activities including defense and public education.
6. The effects of illegal immigration will become severe as American�s will compete for low wage �blue collar� jobs as a result of outsourcing.
7. Severe retrogression in immigration will not allow skilled workers to settle down or adapt to ever changing skills market. It will hinder the growth of each skilled worker due to lack of long-term planning, long-term investments and developments. These people will not be able to plant the trees that can reap the fruits for generations to come.
8. The effect of not having skilled immigrants in the country will not be zero , but it will be negative and counter-productive as most skilled workers will go back to their home country and instead of contributing to the growth of America , they will compete.
9. National moral level continues to decrease as more American citizens are going into jails than good foreign nationals coming in!
All these effects will be slow in the beginning, but will be visible when it will cross the �tipping point�. A place from where there is no return.
The solution:
Remove the limit on immigration quota for technology professionals for 5 years to solve current retrogression crisis. There after update the quotas (increase or decrease) every year to keep delays constant at 1,2 and 3 years for EB1,EB2 and EB3 categories respectively.
In my view, 5 million well educated and talented legal immigrants are always better for the country than 5 million illegal immigrants. Its better to rely on technology to improve American life style than on illegal immigrants to do cheap labor.
Skilled workers of foreign nationality are well educated, creative and ambitious individuals. They act as a �steroid� for the nation. They charge the nation with prosperity and growth. Generally countries depend on their younger generation and hope that they will become highly productive and good citizens contributing to the growth of their nation in future, however only few countries are blessed with the strong stream of immigrants with highly desirable qualities to make progress today, not tomorrow. It seems America is highly blessed in that regard. But unfortunately the lawmakers don�t seem to recognize how fortunate their country. Following facts support my observation:
1. World has entered information and biotech age. India and China has the biggest technological talent pool
waiting to settle down in USA, yet the immigration quota for these countries is locked to extremely small
and fixed number for decades due to half-century old laws. The laws does not take reality into account.
2. In the days of online stock trading, visa processing is still done at extremely slow pace.
3. The positive impact of immigrants has been taken for granted.
4. Immigration is considered a charity rather than an important factor in country�s growth. The attitude is not right.
If such ignorance continues in the United States following will happen:
1. Innovation will slowdown. It has already begun.
2. Technology companies will migrate to India and China.
3. Large scale outsourcing will occur for technological and knowledge based jobs.
4. Stock indexes will move south, as there won�t be many attractive places to invest money. High profits normally come from high growth companies and today�s high growth companies come from technology sector.
5. Tax revenues will decrease, which will affect all government activities including defense and public education.
6. The effects of illegal immigration will become severe as American�s will compete for low wage �blue collar� jobs as a result of outsourcing.
7. Severe retrogression in immigration will not allow skilled workers to settle down or adapt to ever changing skills market. It will hinder the growth of each skilled worker due to lack of long-term planning, long-term investments and developments. These people will not be able to plant the trees that can reap the fruits for generations to come.
8. The effect of not having skilled immigrants in the country will not be zero , but it will be negative and counter-productive as most skilled workers will go back to their home country and instead of contributing to the growth of America , they will compete.
9. National moral level continues to decrease as more American citizens are going into jails than good foreign nationals coming in!
All these effects will be slow in the beginning, but will be visible when it will cross the �tipping point�. A place from where there is no return.
The solution:
Remove the limit on immigration quota for technology professionals for 5 years to solve current retrogression crisis. There after update the quotas (increase or decrease) every year to keep delays constant at 1,2 and 3 years for EB1,EB2 and EB3 categories respectively.
In my view, 5 million well educated and talented legal immigrants are always better for the country than 5 million illegal immigrants. Its better to rely on technology to improve American life style than on illegal immigrants to do cheap labor.
gchope07
07-18 03:14 PM
I am confused about receipt date?
Notice date is when the receipt notice is generated- That's simple
Is receipt date the date when they do data entry into the system or is it the date when they receive the package even though they may do data entry a month later?
In other words people who filed there application on July 2nd,3rd etc ... and lets say USCIS takes 2 months to receipt those cases.. then after 2 months when the notice is generated won't it have a July 2nd receipt date? for July 2 filers?
Notice date is when the receipt notice is generated- That's simple
Is receipt date the date when they do data entry into the system or is it the date when they receive the package even though they may do data entry a month later?
In other words people who filed there application on July 2nd,3rd etc ... and lets say USCIS takes 2 months to receipt those cases.. then after 2 months when the notice is generated won't it have a July 2nd receipt date? for July 2 filers?
willwin
09-12 10:49 AM
Let us continue a debate on
a) Pros of this idea
b) Cons of this idea
c) Alternative we might have.
Also, please do not get emotionally attach to an idea let democratically select that is best for the community.
Please limit to those ideas that are executable and within the bounds of law.
In my opinion, we should do this:
Just send two information to USCIS, DOS, President, VP, First Lady and all Congress person of the following:
1. 1st info should have a photocopy of our degree certificate(s). On the same page, print your expereince in years and total tax paid till date to the US government.
2. On a fresh page, type in all the H1B/L VISA approval information and type in bold, we were wanted/invited here legally (and admitted via H1/L).
And, mention that our I140 is approved which means the immigration department has validated our eligibility to become PR.
Ask a question (larger font) on the same page, why keep us on limbo?
This would keep the whole thing short and sweet. We are explicitly saying that we are legals. And we were invited here - legally. We are approved by immigration team to be a PR.
If we could send couple of thousands of letters, I am sure it would have impact as much as any other letter we have in mind.
We are not humiliating them, we are just expressing our frustrations but in mass. May be we can say something like, "Legal Techie slaves in the land of liberty" or "Immigration process that enslave Legal Techies". But, we should keep it short.
As always, ignore this idea if you guys dont like it.
a) Pros of this idea
b) Cons of this idea
c) Alternative we might have.
Also, please do not get emotionally attach to an idea let democratically select that is best for the community.
Please limit to those ideas that are executable and within the bounds of law.
In my opinion, we should do this:
Just send two information to USCIS, DOS, President, VP, First Lady and all Congress person of the following:
1. 1st info should have a photocopy of our degree certificate(s). On the same page, print your expereince in years and total tax paid till date to the US government.
2. On a fresh page, type in all the H1B/L VISA approval information and type in bold, we were wanted/invited here legally (and admitted via H1/L).
And, mention that our I140 is approved which means the immigration department has validated our eligibility to become PR.
Ask a question (larger font) on the same page, why keep us on limbo?
This would keep the whole thing short and sweet. We are explicitly saying that we are legals. And we were invited here - legally. We are approved by immigration team to be a PR.
If we could send couple of thousands of letters, I am sure it would have impact as much as any other letter we have in mind.
We are not humiliating them, we are just expressing our frustrations but in mass. May be we can say something like, "Legal Techie slaves in the land of liberty" or "Immigration process that enslave Legal Techies". But, we should keep it short.
As always, ignore this idea if you guys dont like it.
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